{I’ve had like, a completely different form for a post on this topic in my head for literally years. Doesn’t look like that one’s getting written at least any time soon, and I had some stuff that caused different thoughts since, but currently had some thoughts in a new form and want to write something!}
(Additional/general/underlying point: It is really, really common for these to be conflated, tangled, assumed to go together, etc, in ways that do harm, interfere with communication and self-understanding, etc, including domist ways.)
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Who is physically or otherwise actively doing things (vs having them done to them).
- Some examples of things that can be the ‘thing done’: impact play, bondage, wax play, hypnosis, manicure, body worship, polishing boots or boot worship, hair styling, genital stimulation, verbal praise/adoration.
~ - Some people will say that this is the only meaning of top/bottom in particular, but that’s not actually how the words are used.
~ - For instance, as one may notice from the examples, there’s an interesting phenomenon where some things-that-can-be-done are generally d-side associated, and some are generally s-side associated (a thing which is itself an issue), and the d-side ones are commonly called topping (e.g., impact play), and the s-side ones are not (e.g., boot worship).
~ - Not actually a ‘one person is one and the other is the other’ thing (even when only two people are involved). Some examples: two people have a swordfight, wrestle, have a ‘both people try to put the other into trance’ hypnosis trance duel, etc. Two (or more) people listen to a recording together. Someone watches someone else paint their own nails.
~ - I’ve started using ‘recipient’ for myself sometimes here with respect to the ‘having done to’. Don’t currently have a counterpart word.
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- Some examples of things that can be the ‘thing done’: impact play, bondage, wax play, hypnosis, manicure, body worship, polishing boots or boot worship, hair styling, genital stimulation, verbal praise/adoration.
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If there is a power dynamic, who is the d-side.
- I had a whole thought-set on how a meaning of topping was a kind of ‘semi-domming’. Then I read the beginning of The New Topping Book, where top/bottom are just used to mean d-side/s-side basically entirely, and ran into more posts and stuff, and – yeah it’s in fact often more than that.
~ - One issue that comes up is that there’s not actually enough conscious attention to whether or not a scene in fact has a power dynamic. A lot of unspoken defaults and etc mean that things people will sometimes go talk about as ‘only physical topping’ in fact totally have an unspoken power dynamic going on. This is a problem in a variety of ways.
~ - I think the combination of these two can get in fact kind of gaslight-y at people.
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- I had a whole thought-set on how a meaning of topping was a kind of ‘semi-domming’. Then I read the beginning of The New Topping Book, where top/bottom are just used to mean d-side/s-side basically entirely, and ran into more posts and stuff, and – yeah it’s in fact often more than that.
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Who is leading/directing action.
- Note that this is not actually the same as the active-doing meaning, though they’re often conflated. Example: telling someone how to hit/touch/tie/etc you.
~ - Again, neither a ‘one person does one and the other does the other’ nor a binary. ‘Fluid (or for that matter non-fluid but say determined by preset signals) turn taking’ and ‘cooperative construction’ are things that can be done.
~ - Also variation in how this can be done – ‘person 1 decides what to do and does it’, ‘person 1 decides what to do and tells person 2 to do that’, ‘person 1 has an idea and says to person 2 ‘how about this”, etc, can be possible and different dynamics.
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- Note that this is not actually the same as the active-doing meaning, though they’re often conflated. Example: telling someone how to hit/touch/tie/etc you.
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Who is responsible for/doing ‘scene emotional work’.
- I’ve come more to conceptualizing this as a category, and have struggled for a while with how to refer to it. At the moment here using the above.
~ - Credit to Xan West for a lot of these thoughts – see Two Footing and Holding the Scene in the essay One Sadist’s Consent.
~ - Scene emotional work is the work that goes into keeping things ok and well, noticing if there’s a problem and doing something about it, etc. One example, going to what Xan talked about, is ‘staying present’ in the ‘real world’ to notice things like ‘it is a bad idea to go farther’, ‘something has gone wrong’, etc. Another example is making sure aftercare needs get met.
~ - One of the things Xan points out is that there’s often a very strong implicit idea/expectation that the ‘top’ (in the d-side sense and conflated/tangled with others) does this work, and the bottom does not (and that this idea/expectation is a problem).
~ - One additional place I’ve seen this: there’s recently been more recognition and discussion of the fact that ‘tops’ can also need aftercare. (Which is very good and important and should continue and strengthen). However, at least I personally have not actually seen much discussion on how tops getting aftercare is conceptualized. I think this is largely due to this bringing up tension with ‘expectation that ‘bottom’ is not doing scene emotional work’.
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(To be clear, wanting to be free from expectations of this scene work and have someone else take it on is a valid thing to want or to need for scenes to work for you. However, like wants and needs in general, dynamics of this ought to be part of negotiations and compatibility, rather than implicitly assumed in a one-size-for-all.)
~ - I was going to put planning the scene here, then it occurred to me it could also go under leading/directing, then it occurred to me that leading/directing could itself be seen as under emotional work. I think the best model for me currently is to continue to separate them out, with the leading/direction (where I do think scene planning/genesis/impetus properly falls) being a type of emotional work in the broader sense but in a different category than this one here.
- I’ve come more to conceptualizing this as a category, and have struggled for a while with how to refer to it. At the moment here using the above.